W3PYF : You might want to check your auto-spell settings... or did you actually dislike the RP? You are pushing the one dimensional argument. gfperez,You are comparing apples and oranges.In the example above, this is a situation where the distance between the camera and the subject is the same for both pictures (infinity). Considering some of the highest paid professionals shoot with far lesser cameras or are even still shooting film only points out your shallow view point. skip it. We didn't find many wizards or scarecrows, but we did see plenty of lizards and landscape scenes along the Australian coast. If budget is an issue or business requirement; it is far more professional to have multiple cameras than 1 pro body and no back up. The Engadget Score is a unique ranking of products based on extensive independent research and analysis by our expert editorial and research teams. Probably not fair to compare but Canon has a long way to go before mirror-less is on par. Who likes being around dead bodies and/or militia? When we first reported on the alleged ransomware attack back in August, Canon said it was 'investigating the situation.' My father took shrapnel in WW2 and saw some horrible things. You don’t have experience to know what you are talking about. For example select the RP and also the 5D Mark II and observe that the raw image quality rating is much better for the 5D Mark II, despite the sensor performance being worse. There's a lot to dislike about video on the Canon EOS RP. The Canon EOS RP is Canon’s second entry in the new R series of mirrorless cameras from Canada. The truth is you will not become a pro because you are scared. Canon has that lens covered for me. All cameras these days are engineering marvels. Please correct the review!I read an interview with Canon engineers and thay says that the EOS-RP has the same weather-sealing of the EOS-6D MkII.https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2019/02/14/juicy-tidbits-on-canon-eos-rp-interview-q-and-a, I bought the Canon 6D Mk 11 14 months ago and absolutely love it. Stabilization. If you have talent but don’t have much $ you buy a camera like a 6d or RP because it will allow you to get 99% of the same results necessary to get a folio together. The Leica Q2 Monochrom is a version of the Gold Award-winning Q2 that only shoots images in black and white. On the downside, the ergonomics leave a bit to be desired, and the single card slot may be a deal-breaker for some. I've always liked how Canon's cameras reproduce colors, thanks to the excellent color science. I’d skip the 28- 70 and go the 24-105 f4 on one body for the wide and long end + get a 50mm 1.2 on the other body for low light. The EOS RP is available now at a price of $1299 body-only, $1999 with the EF adapter and a 24-105mm F3.5-5.6 lens, and $2399 with the native RF 24-105mm F4L lens. In addition the controls and menu are so well thought out, plus the awesome colour science and picture quality. The ultimate value of a camera is the quality of its image output. I was only referring that the RP is good enough for professional work. So get over yourself. War brings out the worst in us, but tragedy also has the ability to bring out the best in people. So, nobody bothers to over-deliver. And then processed beyond even Ken Rockwell's bleeding color. Have you tried it and found that it doesn't do what they say it does? @gfperezNo, you are absolutly wrong,The f-number is in use to express how much light a lens can capture, for example the 85mm f/1.8 and 24mm f/1.8 can capture the same amount. The Canon EOS RP is an entry-level full-frame camera. That said, the 24-105 is FANTASTIC!! The Canon EOS RP dropped exactly one year ago and we haven’t done a its full review yet and figured it’s time. That said, for me, Brown's war coverage is a classic example of "right place right time." As I've found with most other Canon cameras, the EOS RP feels and handles great. The A9 expands creativity when compared to the 1DX or the D5 at so many different levels it is not even funny. Canon make quality products. AOV) could often be the right tool for the job when incognito is important. As for low expectations this is magnum- it’s one of the highest regarded photo agencies today. The end result of getting the photo of that decisive moment of a certain situation is probably more important than whichever brand one use. After many years using Canon reflex cameras, two years ago I decided to try mirrorless: A7, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III. Not because they are less crippled, like Canon's philosophy shows.When you are trying to save money by using non-professional tools, you are being unprofessional and risking your reputation. Sure plenty of professionals portrait photograhers shoot D5’s etc. If someone prefers a zoom, the RF35/1.8 Macro, is great as well. I’m not telling you to buy the camera. Then I am an astronaut. A camera is more than the sum of its parts. You also have a spare if one fails. It is one of the most important things really. The a7 is a dog; poor color technology, very poor ergonomics, slow AF, nothing redeeming about it. Excludes built in image stabilization. This camera will be good value when it sells for $800 on Black Friday. The Automn '19 updates to the RP firmware proved to be game changers - actually I feel, that some of the early reviews should be remade - the upgrades are extremely essential. You can't win this. There are caveats, though, in that the RP is a poor choice for those looking to shoot video, and the native lens selection is lacking at this time. Most in-body stabilization systems are smart enough to let the lens IS do the things it's good at, so you don't have to choose one or the other. Oh and Michael were the hell did you see that packed, the cheapest I could get that package would have been £1250. Because that's not a job. Agree. That's not how it works. It seems opinions of the RP are sharply divided into two camps: 1. Good luck. You are suggesting to rent one D850 when you could OWN D750’s that you can sell on for the same $$ You are paying a rental service not only for the camera + their cut. Like second from the top :). I don't care about other people's low expectations and asceticism. It is to challenge us. I get paid for photography it’s where I make 100% of my income. Only crazy people like kodacolor200 can enjoy and glorify war photography. Believe it or not, but film cameras can actually be tougher in this regard. I've used it. Overall, I wasn't disappointed with the EOS RP's performance as it more or less delivered what I expected for the price. Do you really think you could keep your cool, get in close with a 28mm and get the shot? Another good option is Sony's A7 II, which lacks 4K video but has 5-axis in-body stabilization and more native lens options. With the flip-around articulating display, the Canon would make a good vlogging camera. Haha! But it’s really pointless. It just makes no sense for most because they are invested in their systems, which of course are also very good systems, not because they think the A9 is inferior. no 7000$ needed lol. And they're just beautiful creatures. For a good majority the RP is more than enough camera. Overall nothing major to complain about, this camera works well for a good price. Key features are listed as: 1. The control scheme is actually very good on A7 with 3 wheels assigned to your liking ( I personally have them set to aperture, SS and ISO respectively) and dedicated exp. Canon EOS RP Review » Gyanijosh Latest News, Today News, Tech News, Sports News, Business News etc. zxaar - what subject were those comments about? I used a variety of cameras and often an Oly TG4 is all one need to capture the fleeting moment or expression. I just like as you, choose to remain anonymous here. DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. I made clear in the previous reply that I was talking about the entrance pupil, sorry if it was not clear enough. I’m actually embarrassed by your stupidity. Regarding "Canon color", that's always been to me. If you want to be an astronaut, join the navy that will fund study in a relevant field of science and learn to fly aircraft and work your way up. Both lenses at the same f-stop fill the frame with the same total amount of light (provided perfect uniformity across the entire 50mm scene (i.e. The RF 50 f1.2 is ridiculously good, the Sony 24 GM won the lens of the year prize, good, I had two of them, faulty AF (on A7III and A7RIII) and huge field distortion, the RF is so much better! This is fallacy. OK that ain't going to happen (from Canon) but the close options have been missed too. Suffice to say, this won't make a great sports camera. If you want to be a photographer you start somewhere. I'm generally pleased with this camera and it focusses well with my 300mm f4 + 2x converter. Yes, adapters exist. We take a look at tracking performance, pupil detection and more on the EOS RP. @kodacolor200I find your lack of faith disturbing....Joke aside, your condescending tone shows that you are pretty unaware how far ahead Sony is moving. I just wonder if I might be wrong and you two right, so I made a little test. Use the EF mount lenses now, later add some RF lenses. In that case, though, why not just get a 6D Mark II EF-mount DSLR instead? They don’t do low expectations and you certainly won’t be receiving a nomination to join anytime soon. You are not interested? What a stupid design decision. In other words, 85mm at f5.6, 1/2500 s and ISO6400, and 50mm at 5.6, 1/1250 s and ISO32000 (the DPReview settings). Because the 6DM2 will simply get the shot more often than any mirrorless. I shoot high definition photography in the form of MF and they are not weather sealed. It doesn't matter how much it costs if I don't like the results.Plus it got crippled video features and awkward new controls, so its resale value is automatically reduced.Reality is that I don't care about zooms. Sony deserve to do well they invested early and have done a good job, as other has said, I also know no one who uses Sony. But Brown's just not showing me anything new or significant. We first tested and reviewed the Canon EOS RP right when it was announced, and our impression of the camera was certainly one of excitement mixed with reservations. I think with all the hoo hah for this camera and the expectations from Canon to produce something innovative this is bit of a 'what?' No price is given at this time, but the adapter is set to be available by the end of the year. There is a larger social comment at work, which goes beyond straight reportage. All a sudden dismissing the relevance of speed and focus acquisition for a sport photographer? I know who I’d be choosing. I bought a A7 Mark II at 999USD with a kit lens! Enjoy your better haptics while I get the better pictures.On a different note, ALL sport photographers I know would love to switch to the A9. IQ at low ISO is fine, it is great at high ISOs and colors OOC are the best. What lousy unprofessional tools are you talking about? Which is why professional tools cost more. Which, of course, you know nothing about. That makes it impossible to mix and match 4K and 1080p, something that I do all the time. Those who’ve never seen, held or used it: It has the mark of the beast.2. "And you living in wich universe ? Why would you think that was a literal statement? Your view of photography is shallow, cynical and jaded, to be honest it’s a boring view of the art form. He's nephew is an artsy extremist. So all of the taken in less than bright daylight straight-out-of-camera jpegs seem to be shot at +1/3 stop ISO settings (ISO 250, 500, 1000, 2000, etc. It’s not a camera I would choose based on the many options available to me. We want to hear what you think. The RP is very much an easy camera to use. RP now meets much of the criticism. And that guy probably uses some cheap Chinese fake knock-off cards too.Someone with a couple of second hand Rebels and kit lenses isn't a pro either. I shoot night events and dance performance in dim light all the time. I put my money where I need to. It takes risk. (EOS 77D, ...). You have to have the right tool for the job (and sometimes it can be your phone). You don't make any logical sense and you gamble a lot. On top of that, there's only a single UHS II card slot and a tiny battery that delivers just 250 shots to a charge. I doubt they will ever get fixed. You buy your equipment and you insure it against theft and breakage. You make do with what you have and you work your way up. @strolic furlanThe funny thing is that the DPAF system is fast and it is VERY ACCURATE! Want the full list of specifications for the EOS RP? Not professional tasks, you hack. The battery life might be an issue but spares can easily be had. Guess you would like to have noise reduction baked into raws.... Just got mine a day ago. We're glad you asked. Sorry but you seem to under the misguided assumption that your preference matters to me - it doesn’t. It is not my fault if Sony is doing so well in the chart that you both can only pay attention to this rather than what I am pointing out: RP sales have been dropping dramatically since its release despite many here have been raving about Canon breaking the current market with its release while I was commenting that a similarly specified camera at a similar price already existed (A7II) and I would expect RP sales to more or less align with the existing models a few months after its introduction. Colour technology is an argument for boons that shoot jpg who don't value their work enough to bother editing it, Colours are what YOU make them not the camera. - Art is very subjective. Risk to dive in and be comfortable with whatever you can afford, risk to just give it a go. Not my camera of choice either, but you can’t argue with results. The ovf and the bulkiness of my 50D feels clumsy. Whatever, fine, write 2 Reviews per camera. Several reviews online said that the RAW is noisier than competitors, but I think it's only noticeable in pixel-peeping situations. I will try out and see if it can make me happy. What you have to consider here is that the 85mm lens has a much narrower field of view, therefore it has to gather the same amount of light from a much smaller area - to compensate the narrow view, aperture has to be bigger. Inevitable car analogy: The RP is a medium-class car with an V8 engine with only 150HP. I guess I got to tell that to my clients. Whether you want to become a pro or not. Understanding budgets and operating a profitable business is another means of being professional. It’s these types of images that potentially inform the public to demand action. For some it matters, for others not. You compromise but you build a folio that will get you higher paying jobs and lift your reputation. “It’s just crazy people” “ not my issue” “I’d prefer to block out these images because I’m normal” Yes there are many stupid people, they often claim to be normal. Uncle Bob doesn't qualify as a pro. However, the dynamic range isn't the greatest at lower ISOs, so when I shot in RAW mode and tried to push the shadows (make them brighter), I got a lot more noise than I expected. No only fools waste money, sure you could get 2 D610, but for the money you waste renting 1 d850, you can get a couple d750’s. I don’t. DPR, Judge video crap on video cameras. 1591 posts already.Is that a record?The RP, whether people like it or hate it, is certainly arousing huge interest! If not then I guess it will be a used 7D M2 purchase for a backup and call it a day. I know, many critics disagree with me. So pour a tall cold one and get ready to treat yourself, 2020 style. The EVF is great, the autofocus is excellent, and the customisation options are powerful and plentiful. Decided to try this RP out. That's an enjoyable thing to get used to: no intrusive sound (i switched off the beeps)Pictures beautiful, still love the cam. They are also highly professional. It was the quirky controls and interface that really put me off. Depending on which system you're in and what your needs are, they might just be the compact, well-priced and impressively sharp little primes you've been looking for. I'm pretty flippin tired of videography assessments intermingled with photography assessments on STILLS cameras. "You don’t need a pro body to start." Don’t you have a cat to photograph? @kodacolor200I do not have a problem with you having your own opinion. Sony's new Visual Story app for iOS promises event and wedding photographers a variety of useful tools, designed to simplify their workflow and enhance their business. This is a hack comment. They give it UHS-II support and RAW shooting (admittedly not the fastest in the world, but respectable) with no buffer limit, and then they cheap out on the transfer? That is why you are not a paid creative and miss the point. Why would you put an f4 lens in something with an already terrible sensor.. FYI the Sony a7 is available on amazon right now for alot less than this and even though its many years old it still has this rp beat. Canon's newer chips (including the ones in the 5D IV and EOS R) have a newer design that introduces less read noise at low ISOs, despite a higher pixel count. @kodacolor200 - Did you forget to take your pills?Normally, the normal brain of the normal person defends itself from stress by forgetting all the bad things (or at least it should). And though its specifications aren't going to set the world on fire, the RP is a likable little camera with solid JPEG image quality that will be a fine photographic companion for casual users and those already within the Canon ecosystem looking for a compact second body. "You like to read others people comments in your own personal light, and sprinkle trivial facts to give some sense of validation of your subjective assumptions. I love 'em, what can I say? As long as you make vague, unsupported arguments what you say is irrelevant, I did not fail to read your point, it was irrelevant as presented. "no money left for good lenses" - So, why suddenly good lenses matter to you? You can pinch-zoom and do a few other things with the touchscreen. Killing RP's with professional workloads is wasting money too. Kinda confused about the RF's weather sealing. Yeah, because the a6400 is the pro sports photographers' gear of choice! And then what? And these two things alone are a deal-breaker for me. So, you are an artist then, but not a pro photog. Your pessimism is what stops you from seeing the brighter side. In the hand of an experience photographer both cameras can deliver the result. The EOS RP includes the normal assortment of wireless tech. The reason that leaders are not taking decisive action is because the voting public chooses to ignore the issue. I could still use it for professional work and nobody would ask questions. For $1,299, does it truly deliver in value compared to other full-frame mirrorless options? Well, at least they got the grip right, and that one is also highly subjective... Had one in my hand today and its very small and compact yet feels solid - even my pinkie could get a grip...my R feels large by comparison. BAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA! Get a sense for how Richard Butler got along with the EOS RP, and how sometimes, likability may trump capability. Certainly not any sort of glamorization, but as a lesson that we must learn from and stop repeating. The RF24-105/4 is a great option for the RP. The higher iso quality is also acceptable to me.I had problems using my sigma 50mm 1.4 dg hsm but switching off the peripheral illumination correction seemed to prevent the large concentric rings which haloed my first shots. "Well, I dunno about "exotic", lol! We took a look at the field and selected the Panasonic S1H and GH5 as the best cameras for serious videographers. Depends who’s using the camera. Why didn't you get two D600's instead, uncle Bob? My message are simply a response to a very opinionated, aggressive and miss-informed comment by kodacolor200, living nostalgically the tech of the past, just like his name. You get there. With 24-105 F4 L USM - great walk-around combo. Meh, mirrorlesses were the oddballs before but not exotic. Art is not entertainment. It is larger social awareness that places political pressure one leaders to stop the horror. What makes you think a professional photographer could not make a living with this camera? Better photos are not produced with with the ability to have an EVF that doesn’t black out. There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional productions or A-camera for amateur and independent productions. I have a 7D Mk2 as my main camera and that camera hammers the RP at almost everything. Even my D7500 can do this. They're getting better, and now that Lumix is taking MILC ergonomics seriously, hopefully Nikon, Canon, and Sony will get real about MILC ergos and finally make a MILC that impresses me. But how do you know which is the right one for you? It comes with the ingenious Canon RF 24-240mm f/4-7.1, a 10x superzoom that gives you all the range you could want in a … You don't need to spend a fortune to buy a camera that's designed for videography. Haptics and reliability. When I made the switch from film to digital I was in a fortunate position and able to get 2 D700 bodies for digital work. You would also note that in making a good photograph requires one to have creative facility. You are a cheap photog. They now make really good livings. So, the 85mm fills the whole frame with light ONLY collected from the narrower FOV, whereas the 50mm fills the frame with light collected from a wider FOV. Their angles and compositions didn't strike me as more than snapshots of the moment. You are too busy looking at the negatives to see what can be achieve with the camera. Whats your point. Also, remember that aperture values are only true at infinity focus, so make sure your subject is quite far away. I have work in National collections. The EOS RP is Canon's second full frame mirrorless camera, built around the new RF mount, and comes with an aggressive launch price of $1300.